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		<title>By: Hire Web Developers</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-5976</link>
		<dc:creator>Hire Web Developers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joomla and WordPress both are very beneficial for CMS.  None of the content management systems will come up to you and say, here is a great keyword rich title for your post. None of them will provide you with the keyword rich quality content that attracts visitors and back-links. Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joomla and WordPress both are very beneficial for CMS.  None of the content management systems will come up to you and say, here is a great keyword rich title for your post. None of them will provide you with the keyword rich quality content that attracts visitors and back-links. Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: accident claims guy</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-5262</link>
		<dc:creator>accident claims guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Sir, 

There is no magic in any of these systems and it is up to the siteowner to make sensible decisions and do a little work to get things in order. I have come across so may blogs where everything is posted under &quot;uncategorised&quot; rather than neatly organised into categories. Just one of the things that will make your site more readable to the spoders. It has often been said that google loves blogs, but only if it knows what they are about and its up to the owner to give those spiders a little hint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Sir, </p>
<p>There is no magic in any of these systems and it is up to the siteowner to make sensible decisions and do a little work to get things in order. I have come across so may blogs where everything is posted under &#8220;uncategorised&#8221; rather than neatly organised into categories. Just one of the things that will make your site more readable to the spoders. It has often been said that google loves blogs, but only if it knows what they are about and its up to the owner to give those spiders a little hint.</p>
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		<title>By: Yolanda</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-5215</link>
		<dc:creator>Yolanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 20:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sentiments exactly!

Giving credit to the platform instead of the webmaster is what happens often when trying to defend Wordpress. If you truly understand SEO, then you know that the platform doesn&#039;t make the website, its the person behind it that can make or break its success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sentiments exactly!</p>
<p>Giving credit to the platform instead of the webmaster is what happens often when trying to defend WordPress. If you truly understand SEO, then you know that the platform doesn&#8217;t make the website, its the person behind it that can make or break its success.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-5149</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using Wordpress for over one year now and find that the SEO plugins available are amazing! though hard to find they are out there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using WordPress for over one year now and find that the SEO plugins available are amazing! though hard to find they are out there</p>
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		<title>By: Checker</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-5146</link>
		<dc:creator>Checker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange post...

Drupal / Wordpress / Joomla do not make great websites, YOU do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange post&#8230;</p>
<p>Drupal / WordPress / Joomla do not make great websites, YOU do</p>
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		<title>By: mamta sharma</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-5136</link>
		<dc:creator>mamta sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great and interesting blog. Initially it shocked me as it says the reverse what other says. Anyways thanks for sparking an idea to write blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great and interesting blog. Initially it shocked me as it says the reverse what other says. Anyways thanks for sparking an idea to write blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-5109</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. I always find Wordpress the best. Joomla! isn&#039;t far behind though, just slower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I always find WordPress the best. Joomla! isn&#8217;t far behind though, just slower.</p>
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		<title>By: content management systems</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4953</link>
		<dc:creator>content management systems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends what you want to do as to whether you use Joomla or Wordpress. I&#039;ve found wordpress sites get indexed quicker on the whole, but other than that both are good for SEO with the right plugins in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends what you want to do as to whether you use Joomla or WordPress. I&#8217;ve found wordpress sites get indexed quicker on the whole, but other than that both are good for SEO with the right plugins in place.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Wordpress has some real lacking in features that other CMS packages offer. That is one of the reasons why I&#039;m reluctant to adopt it.  Thanks for your clarification and insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe WordPress has some real lacking in features that other CMS packages offer. That is one of the reasons why I&#8217;m reluctant to adopt it.  Thanks for your clarification and insights.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4896</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used sh404SEF for a while to get friendly URLs on my Joomla site.  They didn&#039;t look too friendly to me, but it worked for the search engines and delivered a lot of traffic. 

Unfortunately, I made the biggest mistake you can ever make with any CMS - I left some of the mods out of date and it doesn&#039;t take long before someone will find out and take advantage of that.  

For now and in to the future though, I will probably continue to focus my efforts on Wordpress.  It doesn&#039;t have all of the options and features of some other CMS packages, but dang it really is easy to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used sh404SEF for a while to get friendly URLs on my Joomla site.  They didn&#8217;t look too friendly to me, but it worked for the search engines and delivered a lot of traffic. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I made the biggest mistake you can ever make with any CMS &#8211; I left some of the mods out of date and it doesn&#8217;t take long before someone will find out and take advantage of that.  </p>
<p>For now and in to the future though, I will probably continue to focus my efforts on WordPress.  It doesn&#8217;t have all of the options and features of some other CMS packages, but dang it really is easy to use.</p>
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		<title>By: subagio</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4837</link>
		<dc:creator>subagio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about crawling, google give webmaster a tool, to send sitemap, so we dont need to wait until our web get crawling, sure perma link is seo friendly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about crawling, google give webmaster a tool, to send sitemap, so we dont need to wait until our web get crawling, sure perma link is seo friendly</p>
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		<title>By: Seo Firm</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4834</link>
		<dc:creator>Seo Firm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.......any ideas on how to export mojoBlog content into Joomla? All the solutions I&#039;ve found for importing WordPress stuff into Joomla doesn&#039;t exist or doesn&#039;t work anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;.any ideas on how to export mojoBlog content into Joomla? All the solutions I&#8217;ve found for importing WordPress stuff into Joomla doesn&#8217;t exist or doesn&#8217;t work anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian Hildebrandt</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4582</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristian Hildebrandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is definately a point about what you have said, but some cms natively still do a better job optimizing for the web than others.

If you know your cms and some seo principles, I belieive you will always archieve good results with any cms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is definately a point about what you have said, but some cms natively still do a better job optimizing for the web than others.</p>
<p>If you know your cms and some seo principles, I belieive you will always archieve good results with any cms.</p>
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		<title>By: Indy</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4545</link>
		<dc:creator>Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, thats right! e.g. you can find a sites with pr8 and #110 on google or a page with pr0 on the 1st page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, thats right! e.g. you can find a sites with pr8 and #110 on google or a page with pr0 on the 1st page.</p>
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		<title>By: Hummerbie</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4543</link>
		<dc:creator>Hummerbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@George: Page ranks is not a real issue anymore, the only thing Google will use it for is the frequency of crawling your site.
The higher your PR the more you get crawled.

It has no influence on the sites results in the search engine results pages. 
If you use a tool in Firefox like the SEOBook toolbar or Rankquest that will show you the PR of a site directly in that SERP you will be suprised by the number of sites that outperform high pr sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@George: Page ranks is not a real issue anymore, the only thing Google will use it for is the frequency of crawling your site.<br />
The higher your PR the more you get crawled.</p>
<p>It has no influence on the sites results in the search engine results pages.<br />
If you use a tool in Firefox like the SEOBook toolbar or Rankquest that will show you the PR of a site directly in that SERP you will be suprised by the number of sites that outperform high pr sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Indy</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4542</link>
		<dc:creator>Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this site is was redesigned 3 months ago. For keywords &quot;security company&quot; &quot;private investigator&quot; &quot;private investigators&quot; &quot;security companies&quot; is on the 1. page on google.ie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this site is was redesigned 3 months ago. For keywords &#8220;security company&#8221; &#8220;private investigator&#8221; &#8220;private investigators&#8221; &#8220;security companies&#8221; is on the 1. page on google.ie.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4541</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in the Joomla SEO the ranking of the site is increasing in slowly  First off, how long has your site been up? Google only gives out page ranks twice a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in the Joomla SEO the ranking of the site is increasing in slowly  First off, how long has your site been up? Google only gives out page ranks twice a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Indy</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4529</link>
		<dc:creator>Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...sorry, here the link to the site: www.empire-security.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;sorry, here the link to the site: <a href="http://www.empire-security.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.empire-security.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Indy</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4528</link>
		<dc:creator>Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, this site is 1 month old. go to google.ie and search for &quot;private investigator&quot;. this page is right now on place 20 (yesterday 23) from 14,800 pages and in ca. 2 weeks will be on the 1. page. the only one thing is, you must know, what you doing and how.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, this site is 1 month old. go to google.ie and search for &#8220;private investigator&#8221;. this page is right now on place 20 (yesterday 23) from 14,800 pages and in ca. 2 weeks will be on the 1. page. the only one thing is, you must know, what you doing and how.</p>
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		<title>By: Hummerbie</title>
		<link>http://herbertvandinther.com/joomla-wordpress-drupal-fail-search-engine-optimization/#comment-4526</link>
		<dc:creator>Hummerbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike Law: Yes, some components you use can have a strange effect on SEO, For Joomla you can use a tool like sh404SEF to improve that even if the component self is not SEF. It just takes a lot more work to get it right.

And good point, your template also plays a role in SEF, the better and lighter the coding the better it will perform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike Law: Yes, some components you use can have a strange effect on SEO, For Joomla you can use a tool like sh404SEF to improve that even if the component self is not SEF. It just takes a lot more work to get it right.</p>
<p>And good point, your template also plays a role in SEF, the better and lighter the coding the better it will perform.</p>
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