Comments on: Why Joomla, WordPress and Drupal all Fail at Search Engine Optimization

By: Charlie

Charlie — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:28:50 +0000

Nice post. I always find Wordpress the best. Joomla! isn’t far behind though, just slower.

By: content management systems

content management systems — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:38:58 +0000

It depends what you want to do as to whether you use Joomla or Wordpress. I’ve found wordpress sites get indexed quicker on the whole, but other than that both are good for SEO with the right plugins in place.

By: George

George — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:52:13 +0000

I believe Wordpress has some real lacking in features that other CMS packages offer. That is one of the reasons why I’m reluctant to adopt it. Thanks for your clarification and insights.

By: John

John — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:22:11 +0000

I used sh404SEF for a while to get friendly URLs on my Joomla site. They didn’t look too friendly to me, but it worked for the search engines and delivered a lot of traffic.

Unfortunately, I made the biggest mistake you can ever make with any CMS – I left some of the mods out of date and it doesn’t take long before someone will find out and take advantage of that.

For now and in to the future though, I will probably continue to focus my efforts on Wordpress. It doesn’t have all of the options and features of some other CMS packages, but dang it really is easy to use.

By: subagio

subagio — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:45:15 +0000

Talk about crawling, google give webmaster a tool, to send sitemap, so we dont need to wait until our web get crawling, sure perma link is seo friendly

By: Seo Firm

Seo Firm — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:25:13 +0000

…….any ideas on how to export mojoBlog content into Joomla? All the solutions I’ve found for importing WordPress stuff into Joomla doesn’t exist or doesn’t work anymore.

By: Kristian Hildebrandt

Kristian Hildebrandt — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:18:17 +0000

There is definately a point about what you have said, but some cms natively still do a better job optimizing for the web than others.

If you know your cms and some seo principles, I belieive you will always archieve good results with any cms.

By: Indy

Indy — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:20:49 +0000

yes, thats right! e.g. you can find a sites with pr8 and #110 on google or a page with pr0 on the 1st page.

By: Hummerbie

Hummerbie — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:57:33 +0000

@George: Page ranks is not a real issue anymore, the only thing Google will use it for is the frequency of crawling your site.
The higher your PR the more you get crawled.

It has no influence on the sites results in the search engine results pages.
If you use a tool in Firefox like the SEOBook toolbar or Rankquest that will show you the PR of a site directly in that SERP you will be suprised by the number of sites that outperform high pr sites.

By: Indy

Indy — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:29:23 +0000

this site is was redesigned 3 months ago. For keywords “security company” “private investigator” “private investigators” “security companies” is on the 1. page on google.ie.

By: George

George — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:28:37 +0000

I think in the Joomla SEO the ranking of the site is increasing in slowly First off, how long has your site been up? Google only gives out page ranks twice a year.

By: Indy

Indy — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:00:42 +0000

…sorry, here the link to the site: http://www.empire-security.com

By: Indy

Indy — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:59:47 +0000

hi, this site is 1 month old. go to google.ie and search for “private investigator”. this page is right now on place 20 (yesterday 23) from 14,800 pages and in ca. 2 weeks will be on the 1. page. the only one thing is, you must know, what you doing and how.

By: Hummerbie

Hummerbie — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:30:38 +0000

@Mike Law: Yes, some components you use can have a strange effect on SEO, For Joomla you can use a tool like sh404SEF to improve that even if the component self is not SEF. It just takes a lot more work to get it right.

And good point, your template also plays a role in SEF, the better and lighter the coding the better it will perform.

By: Mike Law

Mike Law — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:14:31 +0000

…and that goes for the template or theme which you use to, that plays a big role in how SEF your site is. Sorry, just thought that needed to said too ;)

By: Mike Law

Mike Law — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:12:35 +0000

I agree to a certain extent, out of the box they are all fine and there are plenty of plug-ins and extensions to provide further enhancements. There are also plenty of tools available today such as Google Webmaster Tools to help ensure your site is properly optimized.

By the way still trying to find a duplicate content checker (checks entire page not just title tags). Would be a long process though as every page would have to be compared to every other page.

Also an outbound link checker which makes sure all sites you are linking to are indexed and haven’t been banned from Google. So if anyone knows where I can find either of those that would be great!

Anyway back to the original topic :) I think it’s when you start plugging in things to your CMS that it can start to get messy. It’s not always easy to make changes to these extensions as you need to go digging through PHP.

The majority of us are not going to just go with a plain install we are going to add a lot of additional stuff so I think SEO is more down to how SEF the extensions are that you use rather than the CMS itself.

By: Indy

Indy — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:06:24 +0000

…answer to user “QUANG BA WEBSITE”

“with WordPress, you can find easily 5 source of duplicated content from archive by tags, archive by category, by date, RSS, blog pagnation, â€¦ and more.”
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google don’t care duplicate content they are compiled from cms system. google know that wordpress and other cms build a duplicate content and it will be acepted.

By: Indy

Indy — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:59:29 +0000

hi hummerbie!
thanks for you reply on my post. sorry for my english, i am from slovakia and i am never learned english in the school. thats only “my” english :-)

ok, i will go step by step to follow you post.

1) “Yes, that is right, they all fail at Search Engine Optimizationâ€¦”

do you know any cms or other html prog they write a seo friendly text (content) for you? i don’t.

2) of course, it is simpler to build a site with right seo content in dreamweaver or other html prog as with a cms, because a cms need a knowledge of structure and how it is work. u can’t see what u do, u can see it on the frontend, but not in the backend. i mean, if u write a article u need to know where is the place, categorie or section of this article. if u use a original joomla section-category-article structure with they sef building, u right, thats absolutely not SEO FRIENDLY. but if u know, what is to do with them u can build a excelente SEO website, very quickly and u have a full controll over all meta tags for each section, category and article. if u want build a big site with a good seo just with handwriten html, then good luck!

or any better ideas, how to build a huge, good, seo web site without a cms like joomla???

By: Hummerbie

Hummerbie — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:40:22 +0000

@indy: I also have several Joomla based websites on which I write about Joomla SEO. I write my idea’s on the platforms I think work best to get in contact with other people and exchange idea’s on SEO and Joomla as well.

To you just a little question, why do you use part of my RSS Feed (I don’t mind that) on your Joomla based website and why is your SEO page a copy of Google’s SEO Answer?

Or is your comment just to get a backlink to your website as part of your SEO Strategy?

By: Indy

Indy — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:08:54 +0000

don’t write a shit! why do you use this wordpress site? do you don’t have a better choice or idea to write this post on a other, better site, made with the better seo?